Hi On Fri, Sep 05, 2008 at 01:05:33PM +0200, JC Brand wrote: > My advice... start low, 8k (or less) and dangle a carrot http://ui26.gamespot.com/825/cakelie_2.jpg Perhaps they'll be the ones using you then. regards, Jan -- .~. Jan Groenewald /V\ ICT Manager /( )\ +27 21 787 9328 ^^-^^ www.aims.ac.za