[CLUG-chat] Buying a laptop

William Walter Kinghorn williamk at dut.ac.za
Tue Aug 18 10:42:33 SAST 2009

Hi All,

registration, road worthy, licensing, paying for plastics bags, rates, vat : Government related stuff that you are required to do by law

MS windows on every Laptop : not  Government related stuff that you are required to do by law

This is something forced on to you by MS and related partners

Tyres - some manufacturers will allow you to change to other makes, obviously with a charge if required

CPUs, you can have different CPU speeds on some laptops, obviously with a charge if required

RAM, you can have different amount of ram with some laptops, obviously with a charge if required

OS, only one, and if you don't like it too bad


From: clug-chat-bounces at clug.org.za [clug-chat-bounces at clug.org.za] On Behalf Of Mogamat Abrahams [lists at tabits.co.za]
Sent: 18 August 2009 10:12
To: OSS-Related Technology Discussions
Subject: Re: [CLUG-chat] Buying a laptop

Liam Smit wrote:

> No offence intended but that is just complete nonsense. E.g. Dell and
> several other hardware vendors will sell you certain hardware models
> with Linux pre-installed. It should be obvious that it is quite within
> their power to put whatever OS on the hardware that they choose to.
> Try buying server hardware and suddenly you can buy hardware from the
> very same vendor with a choice of Linux / Unix / Windows...
I do understand your point, but please view my comments in light of what
Mark originally said something around talking to local distributers etc.
Aside from Dell, no distributors installs an os in ZA AFAIK. When you
buy a server you buy a frame and some components, then its assembled
here, hence you can choose which os you want.
The laptop comes in a sealed box, which is sold to you sealed in most
> More like buying a car and doing the registration, road worthy,
> licensing yourself than paying the dealer to do it for you...
Ahh but you still having to license it no? I know some people that haven't bought a car license ever?!

> Why pay for something you neither want nor need. While I'm sure MS
> won't mind you paying for their product and not actually using it, it
> makes not sense for the person handing over their hard earned money.
I dont like paying for it any more than I like paying for plastics bags,
rates, vat - I am only suggesting one solution, but there may be others
and I am not opposed to them.

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